4 Options 498T "Hot Alnico" Bridge Pickup $134.99. As has been mentioned previously in this thread, the Classics are better defined, and not as hot. and everything in between, I'm in agreement with Roger on the matter. Typical Gibson 57 Classic Humbucker resonance frequency: ca. Search engine wont find "490t or 57 plus" so I apologize if its in this site somewhere. Took the plunge and installed 57 Classic (neck) and Classic Plus (bridge) on both of my ES-137s, replacing the stock 490R/498T combos. Wound a bit too hot for my taste, as well. Just sounds like a Gibson to me. I feel that at the prices their guitars retail for, there should be more effort put into their PU's. I have a Les Paul Classic Antique with the Classic 57 and 57 plus. Is this going to be a huge improvement in tone, especially for more jazz playing? . . Examples of 1996 and 1997 Les Paul Classic Premium Plus models from the Custom Shop include a flametop in Royal Blue with exposed zebra ’57 Classics, a flametop in Purple with covered ’57 Classics, and two highly quilted tops models with exposed zebra ’57 Classics (emerald green and ruby red). Re: Les Pauls: 498T vs '57 Classic The 498 is 14k vs 9k for the 57+. What will I gain by replacing them with Classics in the ES-137? Took the plunge and installed 57 Classic (neck) and Classic Plus (bridge) on both of my ES-137s, replacing the stock 490R/498T combos. 1 Options ... 1 Options Sign Up for Gibson News & Special Offers. Gibson 500t vs 498t Gibson 498T vs 500T Page 2 MarshallForum . I actually wired my SG up with the 57plus in the neck and the 57 classic in the bridge.....made it a total beast for metal n stuff Aaron Olsen, Dec 17, ... 498T is 14k 57+ is 8.5k 57 is 7k I … Attempting to verbally describe the difference in sound which these differences give rise to is a hilarious business. [GEAR]: Gibson 498T vs Classic 57 + bridge pickups I'm rolling through a couple of Gibson pickups and did a quick comparison video that might help someone considering swapping. The Gibson '57 Classic Plus Pickup mimics those late-1950s humbuckers that received a few extra turns of wire. Both cheapie import stuff. Took the plunge and installed 57 Classic (neck) and Classic Plus (bridge) on both of my ES-137s, replacing the stock 490R/498T combos. The 12 string neck on the EDS-1275 has two Classic 57's. Welcome to r/guitar, a community devoted to the exchange of guitar related information and entertainment. Recorded using a Ceriatone Plexi clone into Two Notes Cab M. Slight boost from TC Spark pedal. '57 Classic Plus Pickup $175.99. It has the Gibson "crunchy" tone signature. 1 Options '57 Classic with 4-Conductor Wiring Pickup $199.99. They are to my ears. I am really thinking about buying the Classic 57 and the Classic 57 Plus set for my chambered LP Studio. Amazon prices are MUCH lower than dealers like Musician's Friend, and other places. Even if it … 57s are darker & lower output pickups than modern classics. The Modern Classics (490R/498T) are AlNiCo II mags = a little warmer sounding. So Im guessing 498 is similar to a JB? 5 Options Dirty Fingers Pickup $154.99. Any of you made this swap in your ES-137? If you have guitar related questions, use the "Search" field or ask the community. I've tried a lot of pickups in my LP and the Classic 57+ is my favorite. 498T is a very versatile bridge pickup, has a slightly more mide compared with 57 Classic Plus, but is a little hotter. Just sounds like a Gibson to me. Gibson 57 Classic Plus vs 498T Pickups ( Les Paul & SG ) Metal Demo - Duration: 1:30. but, more clarity and greater definition than the SD '59s I have in one of my Super Eagles. Examples of 1996 and 1997 Les Paul Classic Premium Plus models from the Custom Shop include a flametop in Royal Blue with exposed zebra ’57 Classics, a flametop in Purple with covered ’57 Classics, and two highly quilted tops models with exposed zebra ’57 Classics (emerald green and ruby red). Subscribe. And now, in the 2014 models, Gibson has ’59 Classic and ’61 Classic pickups. I recently scored a 2007 Gibson SG Standard. 1 Options '57 Classic with 4-Conductor Wiring Pickup $199.99. When I bought my 2016 Gibson SG, I intentionally sought out a pickup wound like the ones in my 68 Gibson SG - around 7.7k - and that's the 490R/490T exactly. They were hot/muddy and most importantly, dull sounding pickups that didn't do a single thing for that axe. Peter Varrica 51,293 views. Having said that I think the 498t in a Les Paul is much better suited than a 498t in an SG. Gibson 57 Classics vs. Lindy Fralin Pure PAF Vintage Series 1 Geoffrey E. Stich 4 years ago I have a newer Memphis Gibson ES345 and the current pickups are these Memphis Historic Series and they are slightly darker then expected, not bad, but I know there could be more Zing' out there. 7.5kohms for the neck and 8.2 to maximum 8.5 kohms for the bridge pickup. Just a friendly reminder that political discussion, (including "offhand" and 'sideways' commenting) is. Jun 10, 2012 Re: Gibson 57 Classic and Classic Plus I've only played 57 classics in one Les Paul, but I would have to guess the APH-2 slash set is probably the closest Duncan pickup. Hello guys, I just got a Gibson Classic 57 pickup second hand. Gibson claims the two have near equal output, don't know if I believe them or not. The 498t is vintage sounding with great gain and sustain,classic LP vibe,a ss amp may get over pushed and schrill sounding,tube amps luv the push ! A: There definitely are differences. As has been mentioned previously in this thread, the Classics are better defined, and not as hot. I think some of the bad rap 57 Classics get is due to the "wrong" pots being installed by Gibson back when the 57's were introduced. I recommend to lose the tone sucking capacitor. Or should I be alarmed? Classic rock/blues rock is more my thing. The Plus is definitely hotter, and slightly less output than the 498T. Attempting to verbally describe the difference in sound which these differences give rise to is a hilarious business. Both of those guys sound beyond great! Q: I see some Gibson guitars have ’57 Classic pickups and some have Burstbuckers. They sound great but so different in different guitars. The neck sounds great..but the bridge is lacking..it sounds thin bottom line. I use my bridge PU way more than the neck PU, and the '57 Classic Plus is my favorite. It's true the 490 series sounds more "modern" but the difference in the mids and highs also make them great for note separation with more complex chording and leads. They're a bit hotter than my SD Seths . Discussion in 'Guitars' started by Adrian R, Aug 22, 2014. 1:30. So I called Gibson. They're both laminate, they're as much plastic as wood. '15 EPI ES-175 Premium ('57 plus/bridge) '15 Gibson Flying V ('57 plus/bridge) '16 Gibson ES-335 Studio ('57 Super/bridge) '16 Gibson ES Les Paul Special ('57 Super/bridge) Frankly, I'm at a loss. If I am going with a Gibson guitar, with humbuckers, I am going with the '57 Classic Plus in the bridge and regular '57 Classic in the neck. With its "Patent Applied For" decal on the faceplate, the '57 Classic Plus is a near perfect re-creation of a late 1950s humbucker that was slightly overwound, delivering a hotter output along with rich, vintage tone when used in the bridge position. I've tried a lot of pickups in my LP and the Classic 57+ is my favorite. Gawd I hated that pickup (498). The stock Gibson Les Paul Customs have 490R/498T: I've found all guitars with the 490/498 to lack definition. The Gibson '57 Classic Plus Pickup mimics those late-1950s humbuckers that received a few extra turns of wire. How would a 490t compare to a 57 plus in the bridge in a Sg. I have this set up in a LP Standard 2001---best guitar made in years but that is another review. Jun 18, 2015 #1 Curious about the tonal differences between these 2 pickups. I know its totally personal preference and not meaning to insult anyone who likes them,but I hate the 498t.I like the 490r ,but the 498t I hate.I replaced the 498t in my lp studio with 57 classic plus and it made the guitar come to life.I replaced the 498t in my sg standard with the angus signature pickup and thats my number 1 guitar. Discussion in 'Just Pickups' started by telbert twang, Feb 24, 2009. The 57 Classic pickup is very similar to the original PAF specs, however, the coils are evenly wound to give them a rich, balanced tonal output that the original winding machines could not achieve. I could hear a big difference when I went from ceramics to al5 in my strat. OK, I did some more research and found an answer. Derek Truck chose the 57 Classics for his signature model SG. And now, in the 2014 models, Gibson has ’59 Classic and ’61 Classic pickups. the 498 is alnico 5 or V magnet. They are great. Just bought an ES-137 with the stock 490R/498T combo. The Epiphone isn't solid, it's laminate. Feb 24, 2009 #1. telbert twang Tele-Holic. Gibson 500t vs 498t Gibson 498T vs 500T Page 2 MarshallForum . Id like too try the 57 pup on neck! Posts: 762. '57 Classic Plus Pickup $175.99. Gibson Brands, Inc. respects your right to … I actually like the tone of the Plus better than the 498T (more PAF sounding to me with less mids). For more modern sounds, the '57 Classic in the neck can be paired with the '57 Classic Plus in the bridge. I have an Epiphone LP with a 57 Classic and a Classic Plus. . This is a nice comparison thanks for sharing! My favorite combonation is 57+ bridge and 57 neck. You know the difference, of course? Classic 57+ has more mids with good string definition. The best place to start if you're new is right below in our "Rules" section. Thread starter Lepard; Start date Jun 18, 2015; L. Lepard Senior Member. Classic 57' far too low output for my style. Gibson 500T vs. 498T. Gibson 490T Vs Gibson 57 Classic Plus! Gibson 57 Classic Left: measured in a Gibson Les Paul Less+ 2015 (Neck: 57 Classic, Bridge: 57 Plus, no covers) Right: measured in a Gibson Les Paul Classic 2014 (57 Classic zebra, no covers) 57 Classic - Coil Split: measured in a Gibson Les… I have this combination in all three of my Les Pauls and my Gibson EDS-1275 Double Neck. Recorded using a Ceriatone Plexi clone into Two Notes Cab M. Slight boost from TC Spark pedal. If you like this, and wanna buy me a coffee, I mean...I won't say no! Re: Les Pauls: 498T vs '57 Classic The 498 is 14k vs 9k for the 57+. The magnet itself is an Alnico 5, which is the same only a little stronger than the Alnico II featured in the ’57 Classic; The Difference: In Words. This treatment gave the pickup slightly higher output without sacrificing its rich vintage tone, which helped overdrive tube preamps to a smooth level of saturation without becoming overpowering. Anyhow, YMMV, but the two pickup combinations are a night and day difference. I just put a some 57 classics in my guitar, the classic plus in the bridge and regular 57 at the neck. I could say they are thus extremely versatile, but I can't be sure that's the case. the 500T is ceramic. Joined: Dec 27, 2007 Location: Estonia. Worth every penny IMHO. i don't like the low end on the 498's. A Gibson '57 Classic plus, with a sticker that says 'neck position.' When I bought my 2016 Gibson SG, I intentionally sought out a pickup wound like the ones in my 68 Gibson SG - around 7.7k - and that's the 490R/490T exactly. Gibson 57' classic Vs. 57' classic plus? 498T is more bassy, more gain output. The Plus is definitely hotter, and slightly less output than the 498T. the tone has an overall wider range on an sg, which is could because the 57 classic is pretty smooth, whereas the PG is raw Then: 490 + R or 498T Classic 57 and Classic 57 +? 57 Classic Plus is a nice bridge pickup, its an overwound classic PAF tone, but I think is not very hot to balance with 490R in neck. 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